Yep. Overreactions everywhere. Terrible pitch, loads of changes. The whole back 5 aren’t our first choice starters, so defensively we were always gonna be a bit shabby and on top of that we didn’t play a DM. We’re through now and should build on our momentum on Sunday. UTC
We got shown - yet again - that Mudryk, Dewsbury-Hall and Guiu are nowhere near the calibre required. The left hand side in particular of Dewsbury-Hall and Mudryk was atrocious.
I’m glad we’re through but yesterday’s performance further cements my opinion that despite all this talk of having to make pure profit player sales, we continue to waste money on players like Dewsbury Hall. He is light years away from being good enough to be starting in a Chelsea shirt. Badiashile and Disasi are likewise useless and wasted money too. It’s absolutely painful to watch and I have nothing but sympathy for the fans who paid a chunk of change to fly there and watch that.
Exactly this. An obvious waste of £30m, I mean if we had to cash in on Conor then fair enough (though obviously I would have preferred to keep him) but there was absolutely no reason to sign Dewsbury-Hall when we have Chulwumueka, who is categorically better than Dewsbury-Hall in all facets of the game.
He's just clearly not remotely of the standard required, and we can either admit it now, or admit it in 18 months when he's shipped out.
Thanks Luke some good points there. It is the European Conference League not the Champions League. The inconsistency is a concern and winning becomes a habit like losing.
I did watch the game. The most disappointing player for me was Dewsbury Hall. Even in the Chelsea B team he was below par. As you say only one game and we had many chances. People will pick on the defence but it wasn't really the central defenders but the full backs and for neither of them is full back their preferred position. I'd have rather have Casedi or Chukwuemaka (but the latter is likely permanently injured).
Also I thought George did ok. He had no influence but just looked very comfortable on the ball.
We did what we had to do learning curve for team and manager, we knew that we had defensive issues last year and only Thiago Silva steadied the ship as the problem is we have 3 cb’s all of whom would be a 5th in line cb at another club.
If we were clever we’d rush in today and do a swop with palace for Gueli for whatever it takes preferably as an exchange we know how those work money changes hands both ways and swallow our pride and admit we are wrong with Chalobah.
At a stroke we give ourselves a 2nd/3rd and 4th CB option and have Badashiele & the ex- Fulham lad as 5th & 6th
We do need a star central defender although I think Fofana may have a high ceiling. Unfortunately we have a greater need for a second striker. Right now Jackson is the only serious choice and you cant go through the season like that.
I do think with Jackson people focus on his mistakes and not on what he brings to the party.
Personally if Jackson had been taking penalties last year with 4 weeks at the African nations cup he would have scored 20+ goals we would have been over the moon
The only main concern I have after that game is that the team looks completely different in terms of build up and patterns when Palmer plays in the 10 role compared to when Nkunku is in the 10 role. Nkunku plays it like a second striker, so he spent so much of that game looking for space in the channels to make runs in behind, so it meant that the passing options for Veiga and Enzo were limited to going out wide, particularly because Guiu didn't seem to understand when he needed to come deep.
That might change if it's Jackson there from the start as opposed to Guiu, but it is a bit worrying because I think some of the play broke down because our midfield had options long wide to the wingers and an option to Dewsbury-Hall in the half space, but no options in the pockets behind the opposing midfield because of how high Nkunku was looking to play. That doesn't happen nearly as often with Palmer.
Yep. Overreactions everywhere. Terrible pitch, loads of changes. The whole back 5 aren’t our first choice starters, so defensively we were always gonna be a bit shabby and on top of that we didn’t play a DM. We’re through now and should build on our momentum on Sunday. UTC
We got shown - yet again - that Mudryk, Dewsbury-Hall and Guiu are nowhere near the calibre required. The left hand side in particular of Dewsbury-Hall and Mudryk was atrocious.
If I was Petrovic I'd be pretty peeved as at the moment I can't see that Jorgensen is better in fact he's worse.
Badiashile still looks as if he hasn't a clue what to do with the ball when its passed to him, so he passes back , if he overthinking ?
I’m glad we’re through but yesterday’s performance further cements my opinion that despite all this talk of having to make pure profit player sales, we continue to waste money on players like Dewsbury Hall. He is light years away from being good enough to be starting in a Chelsea shirt. Badiashile and Disasi are likewise useless and wasted money too. It’s absolutely painful to watch and I have nothing but sympathy for the fans who paid a chunk of change to fly there and watch that.
Exactly this. An obvious waste of £30m, I mean if we had to cash in on Conor then fair enough (though obviously I would have preferred to keep him) but there was absolutely no reason to sign Dewsbury-Hall when we have Chulwumueka, who is categorically better than Dewsbury-Hall in all facets of the game.
He's just clearly not remotely of the standard required, and we can either admit it now, or admit it in 18 months when he's shipped out.
Thanks Luke some good points there. It is the European Conference League not the Champions League. The inconsistency is a concern and winning becomes a habit like losing.
I did watch the game. The most disappointing player for me was Dewsbury Hall. Even in the Chelsea B team he was below par. As you say only one game and we had many chances. People will pick on the defence but it wasn't really the central defenders but the full backs and for neither of them is full back their preferred position. I'd have rather have Casedi or Chukwuemaka (but the latter is likely permanently injured).
Also I thought George did ok. He had no influence but just looked very comfortable on the ball.
Put simply I agree Luke.
We did what we had to do learning curve for team and manager, we knew that we had defensive issues last year and only Thiago Silva steadied the ship as the problem is we have 3 cb’s all of whom would be a 5th in line cb at another club.
If we were clever we’d rush in today and do a swop with palace for Gueli for whatever it takes preferably as an exchange we know how those work money changes hands both ways and swallow our pride and admit we are wrong with Chalobah.
At a stroke we give ourselves a 2nd/3rd and 4th CB option and have Badashiele & the ex- Fulham lad as 5th & 6th
We do need a star central defender although I think Fofana may have a high ceiling. Unfortunately we have a greater need for a second striker. Right now Jackson is the only serious choice and you cant go through the season like that.
I do think with Jackson people focus on his mistakes and not on what he brings to the party.
Personally if Jackson had been taking penalties last year with 4 weeks at the African nations cup he would have scored 20+ goals we would have been over the moon
The only main concern I have after that game is that the team looks completely different in terms of build up and patterns when Palmer plays in the 10 role compared to when Nkunku is in the 10 role. Nkunku plays it like a second striker, so he spent so much of that game looking for space in the channels to make runs in behind, so it meant that the passing options for Veiga and Enzo were limited to going out wide, particularly because Guiu didn't seem to understand when he needed to come deep.
That might change if it's Jackson there from the start as opposed to Guiu, but it is a bit worrying because I think some of the play broke down because our midfield had options long wide to the wingers and an option to Dewsbury-Hall in the half space, but no options in the pockets behind the opposing midfield because of how high Nkunku was looking to play. That doesn't happen nearly as often with Palmer.
Didn’t watch the game. But it’s knock out football. The ONLY thing that matters is progress, which we have secured.
Now we are “in Europe”, I feel that we have that tag that so many players want (and might be part of the delay in Osimhens decision).