Maresca is for the here and now. If the board can’t see that, well. What can you say about the divide and constant changes within the club. It marks more of the club’s reaction to their own inconsistencies, with financial and regulatory issues. Some are self inflicted while others are inherited.
For the head coach, Maresca has to do better. In terms of rotating and utilizing his squad more. Such as Hato and Acheampong. He needs to finish in Champions League spot. Other than that, not letting him for the next season seem confusing to me. I see the upside with Maresca, especially if he has the squad for it. Not the un optimized and injury prone players we have.
Badiashile, Tosin, Lavia, Fofana, etc. Who was it that brought these guys in? They are just as liable for the results. When a manager can not use his squad for his play, he is compromised. When he lacks squad availability, he is compromised. When he lacks the profile for his play, he is compromised.
It seems wrong for the pressure to be only the manager. Sporting directors have to shoulder responsibility as well. They are the ones that invested in these players, some duds that put financial strain on us.
I agree. I accept EM screwed up recently and it frustrating that he overthinks things. But it’s literally his first season managing a UCL campaign and targeting a UCL place. The bottom line is he gets some things wrong and some things spot on. Is he the guy to win us the title? Maybe, maybe not. But he is the guy to bring the squad up to the basic level (that is, regularly making top four without sh*tting the bed) to make that long long awaited title tilt. If winning the title is like reaching the summit of Everest (certainly feels like that for the Arse, chortle) then no mountaineer would set off from Base Camp hoping to do it on the first day. So why is it so difficult to be patient? We need to set up base camp then to move up to the next camp and so on and so forth. That way, and only that way will we make a serious title challenge. Both of these things can be true at the same time: Maresca is the right guy to get the squad up to camp number three and Maresca is an inconsistent manager learning on the job with a ceiling that may be lower that the summit of Everest (the Prem. Title, geddit?😉). To sum up then: Maresca is the right man for this job right now. Other stakeholders such as SDs and players need to get their sh*t together too, by the way. Until the season is over there is nothing else to say about it even if EM goes and makes me pull out the few hairs left on top of my head along the way.
I'm not Maresca out and I don't believe the manager is the main, or only problem - clearly the squad isn't fit for purpose with the injuries and inexperience we have.
What I will disagree with is that it's one week of bad results, because it's not. It's two years of bad results. I pointed it out when we had 13 points from 11 games, we're once again dropping far too many points against teams that you need 4-6 from every season.
There's no easy game with the quality of the PL now. Every team can win on their day. But when those teams constantly have their day against you, it's a clear pattern and the reason we'll be sweating CL qualification and progression to the last day once again.
Of course, it's great to beat Liverpool, Spurs, PSG, Barcelona. In a cup final, I back us to beat any team in the world. But in the league or this CL league phase, those results only matter if you beat the teams you're supposed to beat regularly, because there are far more of those games every season.
There are obviously some mitigating circumstances and sacking Enzo doesn't get rid of those, but he definitely needs to improve against the teams we keep dropping points to. It's a learning curve for him, but I do think he overcomplicates things and he needs to learn fast or we'll be screwed financially once again (that one's definitely on those above him).
Have been saying this for years, hire & fire doesn't win you the PL anymore as the level/quality in the league is far too high, glad people are finally starting to cop on.
In football for fans there are 2 big mistakes that fans make.
1) You can’t win every game despite the fans believing you can, the best record so far I believe is the Arsenal team from 20+ years ago that didn’t lose a single match in their premiership title winning season.
2) Fans want instant gratification from their team and want instant changes when this isn’t forthcoming. Let’s be realistic life is about compromise, so let the first fan without sin cast the first stone, as I doubt if we will find one perhaps we should all be quiet and support the manager and the team.
Spot on Andy! I've never understood why people are so entitled to think Chelsea must & should win every single game, especially in an era where the PL is so competitive.
I get your point. It would be great and I'm sure all Chelsea fans would welcome a manager to be at the club for 10 years and build a dynasty and for us to have all the young players come through, but it's a dream. I was stunned when Mourinho went first time as I thought this was going to be our Ferguson years.
The last manager to last more than 4 years at Chelsea was John Neal, if you want 5 then you'll have to go back to Dave Sexton. Sorry, it's nonsense to bang the drum of sticking by a manager, no matter what.
If Arsenal stick by Arteta for 20 years and then he wins one league title, is it deemed to have been worth it. I still wouldn't be surprised to see Arsenal fall apart and Man City fly past them.
Maresca is not the man for the job. You can't hope that doing the same thing wrong continuously will eventually turn out right. We saw enough evidence last season and we've seen it again this season where consistently we haven't been good apart from when we've turned up in maybe four or five 'big' games. A title challenge is built or broken on your bread & butter games, Leeds, Bournemouth, Brentford, Sunderland, Brighton etc. Maresca deserved another season after his finish to last season and the CWC win but we're not going forward. I'm a team manager in a professional capacity and I know that if my team consistently underperforms for whatever reason then I'm the one who is called to account. I know that Maresca is only a symptom of the disease in our club, but he's expendable and I would expect Clearlake to pull the trigger either during or at the end of this season if the current trend continues and there is no top four and we don't go deep in the Champions league. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be a Chelsea legend, but I can't see ( and never could see) that he has the credentials for this job.
Couldn’t agree more.
Maresca is for the here and now. If the board can’t see that, well. What can you say about the divide and constant changes within the club. It marks more of the club’s reaction to their own inconsistencies, with financial and regulatory issues. Some are self inflicted while others are inherited.
For the head coach, Maresca has to do better. In terms of rotating and utilizing his squad more. Such as Hato and Acheampong. He needs to finish in Champions League spot. Other than that, not letting him for the next season seem confusing to me. I see the upside with Maresca, especially if he has the squad for it. Not the un optimized and injury prone players we have.
Badiashile, Tosin, Lavia, Fofana, etc. Who was it that brought these guys in? They are just as liable for the results. When a manager can not use his squad for his play, he is compromised. When he lacks squad availability, he is compromised. When he lacks the profile for his play, he is compromised.
It seems wrong for the pressure to be only the manager. Sporting directors have to shoulder responsibility as well. They are the ones that invested in these players, some duds that put financial strain on us.
I agree. I accept EM screwed up recently and it frustrating that he overthinks things. But it’s literally his first season managing a UCL campaign and targeting a UCL place. The bottom line is he gets some things wrong and some things spot on. Is he the guy to win us the title? Maybe, maybe not. But he is the guy to bring the squad up to the basic level (that is, regularly making top four without sh*tting the bed) to make that long long awaited title tilt. If winning the title is like reaching the summit of Everest (certainly feels like that for the Arse, chortle) then no mountaineer would set off from Base Camp hoping to do it on the first day. So why is it so difficult to be patient? We need to set up base camp then to move up to the next camp and so on and so forth. That way, and only that way will we make a serious title challenge. Both of these things can be true at the same time: Maresca is the right guy to get the squad up to camp number three and Maresca is an inconsistent manager learning on the job with a ceiling that may be lower that the summit of Everest (the Prem. Title, geddit?😉). To sum up then: Maresca is the right man for this job right now. Other stakeholders such as SDs and players need to get their sh*t together too, by the way. Until the season is over there is nothing else to say about it even if EM goes and makes me pull out the few hairs left on top of my head along the way.
Sensible, factual, intelligent analysis. I come to the comments for the reactionary nonsense that will follow.
I'm not Maresca out and I don't believe the manager is the main, or only problem - clearly the squad isn't fit for purpose with the injuries and inexperience we have.
What I will disagree with is that it's one week of bad results, because it's not. It's two years of bad results. I pointed it out when we had 13 points from 11 games, we're once again dropping far too many points against teams that you need 4-6 from every season.
There's no easy game with the quality of the PL now. Every team can win on their day. But when those teams constantly have their day against you, it's a clear pattern and the reason we'll be sweating CL qualification and progression to the last day once again.
Of course, it's great to beat Liverpool, Spurs, PSG, Barcelona. In a cup final, I back us to beat any team in the world. But in the league or this CL league phase, those results only matter if you beat the teams you're supposed to beat regularly, because there are far more of those games every season.
There are obviously some mitigating circumstances and sacking Enzo doesn't get rid of those, but he definitely needs to improve against the teams we keep dropping points to. It's a learning curve for him, but I do think he overcomplicates things and he needs to learn fast or we'll be screwed financially once again (that one's definitely on those above him).
Have been saying this for years, hire & fire doesn't win you the PL anymore as the level/quality in the league is far too high, glad people are finally starting to cop on.
In football for fans there are 2 big mistakes that fans make.
1) You can’t win every game despite the fans believing you can, the best record so far I believe is the Arsenal team from 20+ years ago that didn’t lose a single match in their premiership title winning season.
2) Fans want instant gratification from their team and want instant changes when this isn’t forthcoming. Let’s be realistic life is about compromise, so let the first fan without sin cast the first stone, as I doubt if we will find one perhaps we should all be quiet and support the manager and the team.
Spot on Andy! I've never understood why people are so entitled to think Chelsea must & should win every single game, especially in an era where the PL is so competitive.
I get your point. It would be great and I'm sure all Chelsea fans would welcome a manager to be at the club for 10 years and build a dynasty and for us to have all the young players come through, but it's a dream. I was stunned when Mourinho went first time as I thought this was going to be our Ferguson years.
The last manager to last more than 4 years at Chelsea was John Neal, if you want 5 then you'll have to go back to Dave Sexton. Sorry, it's nonsense to bang the drum of sticking by a manager, no matter what.
If Arsenal stick by Arteta for 20 years and then he wins one league title, is it deemed to have been worth it. I still wouldn't be surprised to see Arsenal fall apart and Man City fly past them.
Maresca is not the man for the job. You can't hope that doing the same thing wrong continuously will eventually turn out right. We saw enough evidence last season and we've seen it again this season where consistently we haven't been good apart from when we've turned up in maybe four or five 'big' games. A title challenge is built or broken on your bread & butter games, Leeds, Bournemouth, Brentford, Sunderland, Brighton etc. Maresca deserved another season after his finish to last season and the CWC win but we're not going forward. I'm a team manager in a professional capacity and I know that if my team consistently underperforms for whatever reason then I'm the one who is called to account. I know that Maresca is only a symptom of the disease in our club, but he's expendable and I would expect Clearlake to pull the trigger either during or at the end of this season if the current trend continues and there is no top four and we don't go deep in the Champions league. I hope I'm wrong and he turns out to be a Chelsea legend, but I can't see ( and never could see) that he has the credentials for this job.
SPOT ON